Being read

[Sally Ann Magnay]

Being read is somthing we just have to live with

I was shopping at Carlisle with Jamie. We both went for a quiet drink in a small town centre pub in Carlisle. Everything was fine until we went to leave. Then this middle aged man had to make a sarcastic comment.

All he said was goodbye BOYS in a sarcastic way. However he has never met me...Sally befor. Well this was like a red rag to a bull to me!!!! I stopped in my tracks and turned to face him. Looking into his eyes I said ......"Girls if you please and by the way you have just deeply insulted me" .......At this point the the pubs barmaid came over and appoligised to me for his bad behavior......He held his head down low and said nothing.....When we got out side his mates were having a smoke ... I also went up to them and said to them as well that your mate inside has said I was a man when I'm bloody not !!!

This is the down side but thank god there are nice people out here. As on my way home I into called tesco for a coffee. On entering the store I was scaned by a woman holding a clipboard. The wondeful smile on her face made me want to talk to her. So I just walked up and asked what are you selling. "Raffel tickets" she said."do you want one". "Later" I said "I will have my coffee first" After drinking the coffee she was still there so I walked up and said "Ok I will have that ticket now" I gave her my name Sally Ann and phone number who knows I could win!!!
Well we just talked to each other. To be honest the fact that I was dreesed did not not matter.

Went Xmas shopping with Ruby (wife) today However Newcastle was so full of people being last Saturday befor Xmas. Then in a shop a poor little man read me, but made a drastic mistake. He made a comment about me to Ruby not knowing who she was... OH boy did he get it. It well and truly backfired on him. "Nice one Ruby" In the end I said thats enough so many people you could just not move.
I must have walked past 100.000 people in 2 hours and only picked up 1 comment and a few strange looks .
At least that I know of anyway

I supose I am very lucky to have a good family who support me So the only answer is to keep on trucking and dont let any one stop you from being yourself

Sally

[jamie]

You should have seen Sally have a go at this guy (I felt sorry for him!) Moral of the sorry - Sally Ann is not a woman to be messed with.
Jamie xx

[kim swanheart]

There are some sad people about aren't there? I used to get mad now I feel sorry for them,they're the ***** who point at aeroplanes!

[Sally Ann Magnay]

Just had a phone call fron tesco's just won a bottle of wine on the raffel ticket

Sally

[Ellena]

Well deserved - Ellena

[debs_n_soots]

Goodness Sally - which pub did that happen in then?

I think people (mainly men) do that kind of thing to increase their own low self esteem - because they hope others will think they are 'clever' - when in fact most people will just think they are a bit of a knob really... Still, doesn't make it any easier.

Take care and Merry Christmas (to everyone)

Debs xx

[Sally Ann Magnay]

Sorry don't rember the name but it was behind M&S by the steps to the car park. Oh by the way this stupid male attitude won't stop me from going back there again. He was probably jelous because he has'nt the guts to do it himself. Every now and then I go the Renaissance meetings by train. I could call in to have a drink then. Yes why not, I think my personality will win through..........;)

Sally

[debs_n_soots]

Right.... that would be the Sportsman then.... which, ironically, is run by a gay man and is, I believe, somewhere used (though by no means exclusively) by the gay community in Carlisle!!

[Sally Ann Magnay]

Ruby and I went to Durham for a day out. Not shopping just the tourist thing. We have lived around here for years but have never visited Durham.

The one place Ruby always wanted to go to was Durham Cathedral. Such a wonderfull peacefull place we both just sat and relaxed. Later we went for a strole along the river bank and coffee in a riverside cafe.

On our way home I asked Ruby did you notice if anyone looked at me?

She said yes you did get a few but only from the Men. The women did not give you a second glance.

Interesting this,,,, what do they see? I remember my male days, Would I have looked at a very tall woman ? Well yes without question I would have done the same .....It's a man thing to look at us women hope they liked what they saw.

Sally

[jamie]

Sally - I'm sure they liked what they saw.

Jamie xx

[Sally Ann Magnay]

Sally - I'm sure they liked what they saw.

Jamie xx


Thanks Jamie

That's nice. I hope they did. :D

Sally

[Kaity]

It happens to the best of us...

Some of you met my gorgeous friend Denise on New Years Eve, when we popped up to Ren. I think I am safe in saying she is a totally amazing looking girl, but one who still feels the need to wear a wig on occasion (due to some hair issues), like when going out all clubbin'.

Well we were walking back down Dickson road afterwards, to get to the Mardi, we walked past a couple of chavs, one of whom pointed at her and said "that ones a bloke!" (due to the wig, I feel), not exactly a great way for her to end the year and face a new one :mad:

It did rather piss her off and send her into a "why the hell am I bothering" mood for a short time, 6 years full-time, two years post-op from FFS and BA, but she still has hair issues, but she soon pulled out of it.

If it had been summer and she'd not had such a heavy coat on with her cleavage on display I dont think it would have happened.

[Sally Ann Magnay]

I have been read yet again....

But this time it was the other way round

I have two jobs the second is in a Spar shop.

To be quite honest I have not told them about myself because I have just started there and don't want to mess things up.

Today I was talking to one of the girls She was jokenly pulling men down by saying men are a pain in the arse.....

She was not exspecting the answer I gave her. And said there is somthing very strange about you. No man has ever said anything like that before

They always defend their manhood to the bitter end..... but you???

Oops Sally silly thing to do

All I said was " I totaly agree men are a real pain in my eyes " But then this is me the female talking

There are 14 girls and 2 men but share the same kind of uniform.

Strange all the girls talk to me the two men don't as we have nothing to talk about.

Sally

[Sally Ann Magnay]

Yes we have just had a weeks holls in the French Pyrenees
in a small town called Oloron-Set-Marie. With Ruby and David olso two or his freinds Megan and John

One wonders just what they thought of me.
Got some very strange looks indeed when trying on ladies clothes at the local market

Well if they did pass comment I would not understand don't speek French

Did get a loverly new and very reveling top and wore it all the way through Spain the next day

Yes talk about standing out from the crowd

Come on a 6ft tall fair skined blonde anongst all those dark haired Spanish ladies.

Oh dear never mind silly girl Sally :p:p

[jamie]

Must have been fun trying on the clothes.:p:p

[Geraldine]

Hi Sally
I have just joined the forum. After reading your first post it reminded me about an incident at a new years party in a pub up here in Scotland. To be sure the pub I was in has a reputation as being full of trouble. Now I was only one month into my RLE (as in being full time) and still had big confidence issues, but I thought that I had drank in that pub for years and knew a lot of folk in it, besides facing up to the world is what the RLE is all about. Anyways I had a great time until the end of the night when this lout starting shouting about me being a bloke. I just looked at him and walked past as I was leaving for another party elsewhere (new year lasts a long time in Scotland!:rolleyes:). Once outside I waited for my partner Jean, when out comes this lout rather hurriedly. He was being perused by my Jean who was hitting him with her brolly!:eek: After quite a telling off he sheepishly came up to me and apologised. I accepted this but he kept saying he didn't understand so right there and then I gave him a crash course on what being transgender is all about. Again more apologies and he wandered off into the night. I have seen him since and now he always says hello! Just goes to show that even the stupidest of louts can learn.;)

[Sally Ann Magnay]

Thanks Geraldine

I know we get them don't we These folk think its fun to humiliate us in public

To be honest I think this guy lernt his lesson here and won't do it again

Good on you Jean is all I can say

Sally

[Linzi]

Something similar happened to me last night!......... I was at a bar in Stroud where I'm quite well known now and whilst waiting to be served I start chatting with a woman..... She introduces me to to her husband!..... He just turns away and blanks me as if as though he couldn't cope with the concept of "Transgender!".... so she apologises for his behavior!.... A minute or so later, he approaches me and whilst looking at my boobs says "Are those real?" to which he grabs them both!....I somehow anticipated this was going to happen so I move my arms upwards very quickly sweeping his away saying "how dare you!"...... The management see this and moved in very quick and tell him to leave!...... He walks out and I see him being given a telling off!...... His wife is very apologetic along with the management who ask me if I'm ok!...... It's funny for the next thing I see is his wife slapping him across the face as they walk off into the street.

[Chrissy64_uk]

You Know linzi you do have all the fun....:D:rolleyes:

Hugs

Chrissy

[Sally Ann Magnay]

Must have been fun trying on the clothes.:p:p

Very nice fem clothes but the euro exchange rate made it far to exspensive to buy much
Sally

[Sally Ann Magnay]

Something similar happened to me last night!......... I was at a bar in Stroud where I'm quite well known now and whilst waiting to be served I start chatting with a woman..... She introduces me to to her husband!..... He just turns away and blanks me as if as though he couldn't cope with the concept of "Transgender!".... so she apologises for his behavior!.... A minute or so later, he approaches me and whilst looking at my boobs says "Are those real?" to which he grabs them both!....I somehow anticipated this was going to happen so I move my arms upwards very quickly sweeping his away saying "how dare you!"...... The management see this and moved in very quick and tell him to leave!...... He walks out and I see him being given a telling off!...... His wife is very apologetic along with the management who ask me if I'm ok!...... It's funny for the next thing I see is his wife slapping him across the face as they walk off into the street.

You are learning what women have to deal with all the time ---Men----always the men.

He wont learn by this you know. I hope it smarted a little though.

[Sara Rae]

LAMO Sally

[Sally Ann Magnay]

Got up this morning at 6 30 and the sun was shining Oh Sally I realy fancy puting a skirt on today so I did. Took the dogs walkies, its hard to cross the road that time in the morning with folk commuiting to work.. Had to go to the royal mail sorting office to collect a parcel. Well the que was full of business men in their suits. So along comes Sall in a Brown skirt and Pink top. From there I called in for some petrol and drove the 5 miles to the spar Shop. As soon as I walked in it was "Sall you can't come to work in those shoes" (Sandel's) well I changed into my uniform in the ladies.

Thease are the places that ladies go to in there everyday life.

Read don't know and don't care:p:p:p

[KatieM]

Unfortunately for us Sally there always seems to be one sad b******d who thinks it's funny to mock us transgendered folk, they are usually the ones who are closet queens who can't come to terms with themselves and their sexuality and when they see us doing our own thing it brings out the worst in them. I think they are very sad and miserable people underneath and I feel sorry for them. Let's just rise above it and walk tall!!
Regards
KatieM

[Sally Ann Magnay]

Yes I did get read as female but from 20 miles away Hee Hee...
True this was over the phone. At work had to phone someone on business. He kept calling me love. Ok love I will deliver next Monday, bye my love I dont know who he is and never likely to meet him But!!!!!

He read my voice as Female ;)

Sally

[Sally Ann Magnay]

You here this from time to time

Was that a Man or a Woman

It happend again today and it felt great!!!!!!

Well I was the taxi today taking my son to the Metro Centre

To be honest I was in a lazy mood just could not be botherd this morning
so went dressed out in a baggy old t-shirt and trousers. sandels and socks.... No bra. or makeup just dam right scruffy. Also three days facal hair groth to boot. (electrolisis requires hair to be a resanable length to work with)

I still picked up a comment was that a man or a woman.

Oh joy

Scruffy bitch.

[Sally Ann Magnay]

The one thing I would not recomend

To walk around a large DIY supper store with a screeming baby in his buggy

Everyone looks at you :eek::eek::eek:

Sally

[Petra Susan]

I'm not to overly concerned about being read, most people know I'm not female as I simply don't look it and with my make up skills some what lacking. Even so when I'm dressed and a sales person comes up to me and says "can I help you Sir" then I just leave the shop, as that I do find rather insulting. If they just left the Sir off at the end then it would be fine, but no some people just have to add it.

Janine

[Evette]

Due to being overly shy about eve
i have only gone out at nite to a few pubs or clubs
wouldnt dare go on a shopping spree
but thats me unfortunatly
byeeeee
Evette

[Sally Ann Magnay]

I'm not to overly concerned about being read, most people know I'm not female as I simply don't look it and with my make up skills some what lacking. Even so when I'm dressed and a sales person comes up to me and says "can I help you Sir" then I just leave the shop, as that I do find rather insulting. If they just left the Sir off at the end then it would be fine, but no some people just have to add it.

Janine

Yes Jamie. You remember Carlisle well I have moved on from this. The last time this happend was in the station buffet at Preston. All I wanted was a coffee The assistant said thank you sir. So I looked him in the eyes and said beg your pardon young man. He looked again and said. Oh very sorry madam. To which I answered I should think so sweety. Went off I went to drink my coffee.

The truth is they don't know for sure so never answer as a man would. Its a dead give away.

Hope this helps

Sally

[Sally Ann Magnay]

Due to being overly shy about eve
i have only gone out at nite to a few pubs or clubs
wouldnt dare go on a shopping spree
but thats me unfortunatly
byeeeee
Evette


Evette
So sad you know. when its all in you head
Come to Blackpool and I will take you shopping
Love
Sally

[Sally Ann Magnay]

In the place I work we all wear the same uniform men and women alike!!!

So how do you tell what gender we all are?

Well its so easy as we all know, its instinctive takes only a slight glance

So how do people read me?

Put it this way never Female.

All the trappings Hair, makeup, nail pollish and earrings invisable

I am Male

[Josie]

Hi Sally,

Can you tell us what the uniform is? I've never seen a uniform that is unisex.

Josie.

[Sally Ann Magnay]

Red Rugby shirt and black trousers oh look at my photos in there in it

Sally

[Josie]

Hi Sally,

I looked at your photos. If I saw you at work you wouldn't be in a unisex uniform.
I would see you as feminine in a feminine uniform.

Can't really say more than that.

Love Josie.

[Ellena]

I have met women, who at first glance mistake for a man, and vice versa. Clothes are clue, but only by convention. I have felt femininity and masculinity are in the head, so it how one expresses oneself - movement, body language, eyes. Eyes fascinate me. It is key part of body for eye recognition - that is known. I find a softness in the eye which women have more than men. And when I look at TG men I see that softness - it is very noticeable. it is almost as we harden look to look male, and soften for female. It is just observation. and not fact.

Ellena:)

[Josie]

I agree with you Ellena, very much.

The eyes have it!
Always subtle but always revealing. Not sure I agree that it is different for men and women though. Either way the eyes show happiness, feeling, warmth (or cold), sensuality, and all of the feelings we have. I guess the eye is central but the movement around the eye is key - eyebrows, eyelashes, widening or closing of lids, real and false smiles, and of course, tears.

On the receiving end the eyes also have it!
They give us our first impression and unfortunately, our first predjudice. When receiving we have to get beyond our predjudice before we can see the depth in the eyes we are looking into.

Again I agree with you. Taking time to see beyond the clothes and make up is difficult for most. First impressions count. And they are usually based upon appearance. But if you are interested (and sometimes courageous) enough to go beyond first impressions you will find the eyes. At that point you will discover who you are with. From that point on, let go and leave the future to your other senses.

Love, Josie.

[Sally Ann Magnay]

Being read walking down the Prom in Blackpool well so what.

Sitting in your own front garden is YES WELL

This time it was a group of 16yr old girls...They were sitting on a park bench 100 yrds over the road in front of my home. They started to wolf whistle...... Thats fine from their safe distance... they thought wrong. Well not ashamed of who I am I stood up walked over to them and sat on the same bench as them. Now whistle That spoilt their little game. :p:p:p

Sally

[noeleena]

Hi.. Sally oh did you talk to them ... thats the thing ... may be ...what i get is at the school most of the young ones know me they call out my name. & say hi ... i return with a wave or say hi. or even talk with them .. i.m to well known .
...noeleena...

[Sally Ann Magnay]

Hi.. Sally oh did you talk to them ... thats the thing ... may be ...what i get is at the school most of the young ones know me they call out my name. & say hi ... i return with a wave or say hi. or even talk with them .. i.m to well known .
...noeleena...

Yes I did talk to them and not nasty just to the point

Sally

[Clare Aston]

Interestingly (or perhaps not) whilst shopping in Manchester over last weekend (my first time out) i and the girl i was with (Kellyanne) were probably 'read' by a number of women in the shops - but the expression is always one of interest, surprise or intrigued + a few knowing smiles...

What is very amusing is sailing past all the blokes out with their g/f's in the shops - and they would sooner be a million miles away!

[Sally Ann Magnay]

Interestingly (or perhaps not) whilst shopping in Manchester over last weekend (my first time out) i and the girl i was with (Kellyanne) were probably 'read' by a number of women in the shops - but the expression is always one of interest, surprise or intrigued + a few knowing smiles...

What is very amusing is sailing past all the blokes out with their g/f's in the shops - and they would sooner be a million miles away!

Yes thats how it is,,,,,,,,, You may have been read by every person who passed you, but you will never know. So what does it matter Ignorance is bliss... What can happen is people can't read you so they look harder. You pick up on this thinking oh ***** read me. when its only in your head .

If they do comment turn round look them in the eye and smile
BIG DEAL SO WHAT

And thats all there is

Sally