Male Breast Enlargement Using Herbs

[Samantha144]

Hi all, I was just wondering if any of you gals out there had any experience with natural herbal breast enlargement regimes ?
I mean I've heard of Fenugreek and Wild Yam and Saw Palmetto. Does anybody have any feedback on their success with any of these herbs, and how long it took them to grow etc. Also apart from the Internet, can anybody recommend any good cheap stockists. What about Lucille Sorella and her Flat2Femme technique ??....Any Good ???

Look forward to hearing from those concerned Love Samantha

[Sarah Hughes]

A few months ago I read that spearmint tea could develop breasts in males.
Well I can tell you I tried it, bought a box of 20 or so tea bags, it didnt work! I couldnt stop them falling out of my bra. ;)

Ok I did try them, but one box didnt seem to be enough to do the trick, I enjoyed the tea though.

[Lynda Collins]

First thing I have to ask is why do you want to encourage breast growth...

Firstly they may take eons to develop

Secondly if they do what are you going to do with them when the summer comes....

Think about it!.....

Breast forms are much more practical unless of course you are going to transition, and can be removed when not wanted

[Petra Susan]

Hello

Very sensible advice is that Lynda.

None of these "herbal remedies" have any proven affects and can have all kinds of undocumented side effects.

If you have it to do it, going the legitimate way and use proper hormones prescribed by you GP and get yourself properly monitored throughout is the only way to go really.

Janine

[Kaity]

Not had much experience with herbal stuff.

However, as stated in another tread, don't buy any of Transformations stuff, it's all crap and anyone who claims to have results from it is either a) getting results from something else in their life or b) deluding themselves.

[Reggie]

Herbs are OK in cooking nothing else

[Samantha144]

Hi thanx all for the healthy varied amount of replies to my post. Yes I understand what most of you are saying with regards to the fact that they are out on dispaly, and not easy to hide, if you are a CD. Maybe I am becoming more interested in transitioning and I do feel more and more like I enjoy the way I look and feel when in femme mode, and so the thought of having permanent breasts is starting to appeal to me more and more. As for the GP thing, well as we all know the BMA and FDA groups all want us to spend spend spend when it comes to pills and hormones etc, but with plant based estrogens, the change within the body is more of a 'natural' transition and that is why more time and quantities are required as opposed to hormone replacment therapies.
Any thoughts on that would be appreciated Gals !!

[julieblack]

on almost the same subject, can i ask if anyone has used evening primrose oil in tablet form and have they seen any results, i'm asking just out of curiosity thats all


julie black

[Lynda Collins]

I do know that one of our girls used to use black gosh [probably the wrong spelling] as this does I believe contain an estrogen. This was readily obtainable.

[Petra Susan]

Hello Julie,

I have used Evening Primrose Oil capsules 1000 Mg twice a day for about 3 months, with zero results. But then I didn't expect anything, I wasn't taking it to encourage any breast growth.

Janine

[Lynda Collins]

on almost the same subject, can i ask if anyone has used evening primrose oil in tablet form and have they seen any results, i'm asking just out of curiosity thats all


julie black


Good for the skin Julie

[Petra Susan]

Hello,

That is what I used it for, to help improve the texture, hydration and elasticity of my skin.

Petra

[sylvia]

I am sure it is working, with the reservation that I am (slowly) losing weight. They may only be man boobs. I have only used saw palmetto and fenugreek as yet. I cannot find a scource of wild yam.

[Josie]

Maybe I can offer a little advice.

Yam is widely available across West Africa. From Nigeria to the Ivory Coast it is freely available both wild and cultivated.

Rather than risk snake bites when searching for the wild stuff I would suggest a visit Joshua Adamowanga's vegetable stall in Ajebo (just off the AI road between Lagos and Ibadan). His Yam are delicious. Be careful not to confuse his yam with sweet potato though.

Hope that helps, Josie. ;)

PS. Alternatively, try Waitrose.

[Samantha144]

I am sure it is working, with the reservation that I am (slowly) losing weight. They may only be man boobs. I have only used saw palmetto and fenugreek as yet. I cannot find a scource of wild yam.
Hi Sylvia was interested in what program of saw palmetto and fenugreek you used, and in what form they came ?
Where did you source them from too hon ?.......And how long have you been using them, to develop your boobies
Samantha

[Josie]

I heard an item on the BBC news tonight. Apparently there is a new technique to provide breast enlargement by transferring fat (by liposuction) from one part of the body to the breasts. I don’t know the credibility of the process but it may be of interest to you. Seems they are describing it as natural in that it promotes natural growth. I heard it on Radio Five Live so you may wish to check the site.

Hope that’s helpful.

Best wishes, Josie.

[Petra Susan]

Hello All

It's been in all the newspapers yesterday and today. I suggest that you need some breast tissue beforehand, just like if you have breast augmentation. I'm a bit suspicious of it as I belive that the fat will just be re-absorbed back into the body and end up back on your belly. The best way to re-distribute fat is by taking oestrogens, which is a damn serious step to take just to develop breasts.


Hate to say this Sylvia, but I think you definately imagining the breast growth. If all these herbals work then they probably will only work on natale females, and even then I very much doubt that they work. For them to work at all you need naturally occuring oestrogen for it to bind to in the first place.
The amounts of phyto-estrogens in each tablet will mean that you will need to take astronomical numbers of tablets and will do youself a lot more harm than good.

Janine

[Linzi]

..Rather than risk snake bites when searching for the wild stuff I would suggest a visit Joshua Adamowanga's vegetable stall in Ajebo (just off the AI road between Lagos and Ibadan)...

Must remember that when I'm next in town on a gun running mission for the Biafran separatists!

[Josie]

Great! let me know when you're on the next mission. We can meet up.

Best wishes, Josie.

[sylvia]

Hi - Flat to Femme. Fenugreek is at Sainsbury,s (Ground herb) or Booths (seeds) both are equally effective. Saw Palmetto (capsules) are at Holland and Baratt, and are to help with prostate troubles. They are supposed to inhibit testesterone. I will orward the email etc for the Flat to femme, or you could google it.

I don't remember meeting you at Ren, but would like to be friends, and hav ereplied again to your request. Last was a delivery failure, so hoping for the best!

[Petra Susan]

Hello Sylvia

Products like Flat to femme will only work on genetic females, and that is very very doubtful. You need natrually occuring oestrogens for the chemicals in them to bind to in the first place, which you won't have.

You have to ask yourself why a multitide of T-girls, through the ages have spent thousands of pounds on proper hormones & anti-androgens, if all they needed to do was pop down to the local supermarket and get something that worked for a tenner.

They are like you say reputedly help in enlarged prostrate, there are as yet no confirmed results or completed trials. It doesn't prevent the creation of testosterone, but prevents it from breaking down into another form of the hormone.

I'd much rather trust a properly formulated Alpha Blocker's or Finisteride.

Janine

[sylvia]

Hi. You may be right, Janine, and I respect both your knowledge and your logic. However, I am now a "B" Cup, whereas both Mummy and my sister were A's. I know, since I wore them often enough, stuffed appropriately. Mine may be man-boobs, since I am trying to lose weight, or it may be the massage, which I carry out as per flat2femme is responsible.

I am hoping the next time I buy a bra' it will be 36C, not 38B.

Love to all, and sorry I won't be at Ren' 2nite.

[Michaelatv]

Hi Girls sorry didnt make it to my first Ren meeting, was shy:o, and also some new items From Amazon didnt arrive in time, as wanted to wear them, next month deffinate:)

Ok. Heres where I can make some useful comments on this subject.

I already have rather bigger male breasts, they fill a 36C underwired bra, just about, because I have been on benzodiazapenes for many years, and one of the side effects of taking these long term is lowering of testo levels.

Now to some useful information.

1. When I first mentioned to my GP, that I was a TV ,I did ask him about safe products that could be used to enhance more growth, Off the record lol, he wrote down, try this.

the correct name is "Black Kohosh" herb, which is widely known to help breast enlargment. It comes in either tablets or essence bottles, where you mix 3mil in small amount of warm water to drink, couple of times daily.

2. Mexican Yam cream, is primary used in females to help combat menopausible symptoms, instead of using the HRT treatment.
This product also contains, Black Kohosh and sometimes the fennel. the problem with Yam cream, is the quality, and some makes of yams have little in the way of feminising hormones to promote breast growth. American yam creams are the best, but of course, you would have to wait for delivery.

The other thing I would like to point out, that , if you think , just taking these herbs, and hoping your mounds will just get bigger by themselves, they wont!

To Stimulate the natural breast enlargment with any of these products, you have to "massage" your breasts twice a day, to get the tissue start to respond. (im an ex Aromatherapy Massuer)

I bought my black Kohosh* from Amazon, you can also buy many other herbs like the fennel on Amazon, as well as the yam cream, but the united States yam cream has much better feedback than the uk ones. ( *Bottle essence)

A few people will buy real feminising products, without consulting there GP first, I cant impress on you, that you should ask your GP first, about the risks or side effects taking estregeon. You should also note, that at first, as my doctor informed me, taking even the herb types, you may find your libido rather inhibited or even temporary lack of maintaining a lasting erection, because of the inhibitors of the male hormones, you are trying to lower.

Hope this has been useful:cool:

love michaela xx

[noeleena]

Hi,

Of cause this will depend on the person . age & so on & wether you female at birth or male at birth . the female rate of T in her body on avg is about 125 nmol . give or take the male is 34 ,nmol give or take .

so takeing herbs is not really going to change that unlees you kill your self by a so far out dose rate.

so its synthic as a male you wont get female looking breasts till your T has been taken down to womens levels . & then you need E...to sustain the growth you go off h r t you lose that growth.
To have female breasts you have to do it the female way or wont happen.

If your a trans person then theres only one way s r s & h r t, now for most it works .

A point i would make , has all thats been said work for every one & 2 have blood tests been done & then check as should be or is this a hit & mis detail . apart from the cost ,

As to the yam cream how much do you need to take & it wont work for every one compare that to h r t & how many years would you have to wait for the changes to take place .

& out of interest we have no results or long term saying its really working .
& when you ask for a detail on the herbs as to whats in them or any other ??? s they say they dont know.
the word Analysis seems to be a big problem they wont & cant give it . iv asked all they say is they dont know. theyll sell with out info. is it really worth the risk..

not for this kid , 6 years is enough to know what works for me & all the blood tests.

...noeleena...

[Debbra]

it like most things there will be a natral plant exsteact for you but it will take time to find without the blood tests to find out how much female hormones are in your body and what will suit you the most so it will be the case of tril by era but be cerfull as there are things out there what will be dangoruse for you so its allways best to seek medical advice and get the blood tests done then you can find the right one for you. its also good to talk to people out and about and live and work full time they can addvise and its always good to talk debbra

[sylvia]

I have tried the herbs reccommended by Lucille Sorella; trouble is they do sem to make me smell, a bit unpleasant or "dirty odour". This can be masked, of course, but don't know what other effects might be. I certainly have more "up top" than I had, but this could have happened, with weight gain anyway. Massage is helpful, and I have had some 1st class info', free, from Lucille.:)

[jackiejones]

I would say give up and use breast forms,its far simpler and safer,or go to the doctors if you want to go full time.

Mind you my breast forms do sometimes give of a latex PVC type smell if worn for long periods

Even women use them,Chicken fillets as they call them,an ex of mine used them even though i thought her natural breasts were fine ,women as well have insicuritys about them.

[Michaelatv]

Well got my first delivery of mexican yam cream, I found it quite a nice smell, almost erotic..lol

Only using a dab on each breast, and massaging it in, no side effects yet, after 4 days of use. Wether Im going to drink the 3mil of Cohosh essence in a small glass of water, twice a day is another thing. But im told this has the highest level of phytoestrogenics.

Although I see on an information sheet by someone called Lucille Sorella, that essences can be massaged onto the area. I use coconut lotion sometimes, I can try a few drops from this Cohash bottle and mix it into the lotion.

I notice some of you are quite taken with these latex or fillet breast formers, but for me, they not really viable, unless im only going to a meeting like at Ren, where im not expecting any sexual activity.

At the Adult Cinema I go to, admirers and other bi Guys, want to have there way:eek: But imagine my bra gets detached by some horny guys, and they grab a phony breast, which most probably will come away, thats going to quite embarrasing?

Dont forget theres two types of people, that dress up, one is a cross Dresser, that person, is totally differant in there characterestics, than me, a Transvestite. Cross Dressers for most part, dont see sex as part of why they dress up, TVs on the other hand, are quite the opposite, most wearing trashy / highly erotic clothes & seamed exotic stay ups, Anklets, chokers, latex, and even silky long sleeved gloves, plus mountains of the most alluring perfume, to woo any prospective sexual encounter. :D

love michaela x

[Reggie]

I hate to be a wet Blanket, but this is a subject that has been aired before and has no beneficial effects whatsoever. Herbal treatments do not work.

[jackiejones]

Correct Reggie,you may as well flush your cash down the toilet

The only reson they sometimes seem to work is the Placebo effect,if someone beleves something can make them better they sometimes do get better all in the mind.

mind you some herbs DO WORK if you smoke them;) i will probably get in trouble again for not taking this seriously.

[Joanne]

some herbs DO WORK if you smoke them;)

I've said it before, and I'll say it again, you're a bad girl Jackie Jones :eek:

[Lynda Collins]

I've said it before, and I'll say it again, you're a bad girl Jackie Jones :eek:

I agree Joanne

Jackie may be a bad girl but,....... Jackie carry on being bad

[Michaelatv]

Reggie, better to be a "Wet Blanket" than a "Snow Blanket", as had enough of ice lately, But I hasten to add, that a lot of the worlds medicines are plant based, as in Digitalis once used, from the Foxglove. Eucalyptus, Rose, tea Tree oil, Calamine, and if You have never seen a growing coffee plant or Tea Plant, as I did in Kew gardens, you will still think tea comes from a tea bag!:p

Im not expecting miracles, but if My own general paractioner can write down that Black koshah will work, who am I to argue with a professional?

Im looking foreward to meeting you jackie, perhaps I can sample your smoked Herb:D

Michy xx

[jackiejones]

I agree Joanne

Jackie may be a bad girl but,....... Jackie carry on being bad

Thank you:) "feels so good to be so bad"

I do not touch the stuff myself Michy:D and thankfully not a victim of the nevil weed Nicoteen.I listned to superman in the 70s

Im sure some herbal stuff works,it has to tribes in the rain forest etc know a lot and many drugs are plant based.

[Michaelatv]

Hi gals, sorry, not been around, but the dreaded flu virus hit my partner week before christmas, unfortunetly she got Bronchitis, and then 3 days later, I went down with it, thankfully, not as bad as her, so both ended in bed up to monday 19th.

Got no energy, but getting back to normal. Missed all the parties, At the Empire cinema and Ren buffet evening, so really dissapointed.:(

Still using my creams and vac pumps, soon be 38c in no time:D

If I dont get down to new years eve at Ren, I wish you all a happy new year:)

Michy xxx

[beckyuktg]

ok my 2 pence worth on the subject of herbal hormones. Essentially they don't work. Things like black kohosh have pseudo-oestrogenic effects in that they bind to and encourage oestrogen development, but to such an extent that it would be negligible - first off it has to be absorbed by the body and nmost of it would be filtered and excreted via liver/kidneys - especially since as genetic males we would require some sort of anti-androgen with it. Certainly there'd be not breast growth.

I have tried them in the past, if only to 'feel' like I was doing something! But the truth is they won't do much more than eating licorice which also has these phytooestrogens in

xxx